I Hope I'm Not Part Of The Problem Because I Like To Consider Myself Somewhere In Between. I See Your

I hope I'm not part of the problem because I like to consider myself somewhere in between. I see your point and I agree but that's not going to stop me from being annoyed seeing Jimmy Junior treat Tina not that great. Heck, in "Burger War", an episode after he kissed Tina on her birthday he didn't even remember her name. They have been restaurant neighbors for how many years before the kiss and he doesn't have her name in his memory?! Credit where credit is due, he has shown there is hope for him. In "Bad Tina" he wasn't completely turned off by the idea of being the main love interest in Tina's "Buttloose" story which is nice because she really needed a win after the embarrassment she subjected herself to. In "Every Which Way but Goose" he helped save Bruce the Goose when the bird was stuck by a friendship bracelet caught in a nail when he didn't have to and while he had a sore butt. I know I wouldn't go anywhere near a goose, those are vicious, f u birds.

He went out of his way to give Tina a rose when he had no idea how to purchase a carnation from Tina during the "Gene and Courtney Show" episode.

He sold his bike in "Gene it On" just so he could take Tina on a date "she" (Louise) wanted to go on.

I'm not counting the Sky Kiss from "Bob Actually" because it's hard to tell if it was selfless or not. It seems he wanted to do it more for the cool factor (especially since he implied he wanted Tina to wear a different outfit earlier in the episode in a passive way. Not the best look for him but it's not "spawn of satan" worthy obviously, just kind of mild jerky. To be fair, Tina is always wearing a skirt so maybe he wanted her in pants for the sky kiss for her sake but we'll never know what he meant by that.) In the Bob's Burgers movie he (allegedly! Like with death in fiction, if they didn't show it, it didn't happen./hj XD) found Tina's barretecklace not knowing what it was but knew it looked like something she usually wore and decided to give it to her. That was enough for Tina to see romance wasn't dead and she was okay with the romance real Jimmy Jr. could do even if it may not be like fantasy Jimmy Jr. That's all the selfless acts that I remember him doing for Tina and only for her that didn't benefit him in anyway (aside from more kisses from Tina). Feel free to add any other selfless acts Jimmy Jr has done in the past that didn't benefit him in some way (aside from Tina's affection) What his major issues that I feel people have a problem with stems from 4 factors. 1. He's self absorbed 2. He can't take constructive criticism at all. 3. He's quick to bail on Tina when things get too weird, intense, or hard. 4. He is hot and cold with Tina a lot.

However, even with these flaws, he's hardly the spawn of satan because of them. In fact, in the words of Miss Labonz, I only really wanted to "punch that kid" for what he did in two episodes. 1. "Presto Tina-o" 2. "V for Valentine-detta"

The rest of the time I feel he's not that bad or was justified because Tina has her problems too. She can also be selfish, have misplaced confidence issues, can be creepy, near predatory, and not know when to tone it down with her intense emotions. However, I hate the first episode so much for how both JJ and Zeke treated Tina (though JJ is worse). Jimmy Junior wasn't taking his magic act seriously at all and it was clear he only wanted to do a magic-themed dance routine over an actual magic act. That's not bad in it of itself, but at least be upfront about just wanting to do a magician-themed dance and not an actual magic act. Tina tried to steer him to actually perform tricks in his magic show but Jimmy Junior could not even take the slightest bit of advice from her because he couldn't stand the thought of someone who had only been doing magic for a day trying to help/possibly know more than him when he was 8 days ahead. Then later he and Zeke laugh at her for being mad, low-key bullying her for showing angry emotions (at least that's how it felt for me anyway but I might be biased).

His inability to not take criticism persists even in season 13, but this was his worst showcase of it. Though, even with that, I understand why this is the case. He already feels at home that he's constantly criticized for who he is by his dad. So he refuses to listen to any criticism from his friends because it feels like a personal attack on him, even if it's with the best intentions. His friends are his safe space, so if even his friends have issues with him, no matter how minor, where else can he feel safe? The second episode, good gosh what was Jimmy Junior thinking with this one?! That's something more his dad would pull, not him! I know he's a dumb teenage boy but what he did in that episode was downright malicious (no wonder Linda later changed her mind about Jimmy Jr. from her opinion of him in season 1 and told Tina she wasn't sure about him in "One of the Boyz 4 Now" XD). Not only did he play with Tina, but he dragged Becky down with Tina as well. Good thing Tina helped a girl out in the end after JJ abruptly dumped her. Becky should be part of Tina's new friend group with Susmita and Dillon lol) Though to defend JJ, I feel the way he treated Tina was what he learned subconsciously from his dad. Even though he tells his dad he's his own person, he still falls into similar pitfalls because that's all he's been taught at home. So I feel once he realizes how much he's taking after his dad when he's older he's going to be disgusted with himself and try to be better. So in short, he's been a stinker a few times but there's still hope for him and I'm sure he'll turn out fine if we ever get a real flash-forward episode. While I can't speak for every Zekina shipper, I think part of the overabundance of hatred JJ gets stems from insecurity. While it's been confirmed on Anidom's Twitter poll Zekina is the more popular ship (at least on Twitter), there's still uncertainty to it all. Being the more popular ship doesn't do a darn thing to make it end game (just ask the Zutara shippers from the ATLA fandom). For example, LisaxNelson is the more popular ship in the Simpsons fandom but more often than not Milhouse is the one Lisa ends up with in flash-forward episodes. So even if Zekina is more popular we still very well could not be end game because the cast thinks JJxTina is funnier or is more in line with what Tina wants anyway. Why should Zeke get what he wants and not Tina after all? Why should Tina have to be the one to settle after all the work she's put in to make her fantasy a reality? So because of this possibility, some Zekina shippers might overcompensate by constantly pointing out every negative thing JJ has done and putting him down to make them feel better about their stance. Though, tearing down one ship just to build your own is never a good idea. It just shows your insecurity in your tastes when you bash a rival ship or a character in a rival ship. You don't need a ship to be canon to justify its existence. It's okay to like what you like whether it's endgame or not. If Zekina happens, great but don't pull a Ron the Death Eater on JJ to justify your ship. Jimmy Jr.'s worst crime is that he's a dumb teenage boy with a bad home life. He's not going to be the most well-adjusted, but at least he's not Tammy. He's just self-absorbed, criticism adverse, and an idiot kid that eats pistachios whole. He has a good heart deep down even if he has a lot to work on with himself like all teens do. He won't' be high in my top favorite Bob's Burgers characters but you can bet that he won't be the last either. Don't make JJ the bad guy and lose Zeke and Tina forever because he is clearly hopeless without them. XD

I love Zeke x Tina, but there's so much Jimmy Jr hate in the community. Like... guys, I get it, he can be a bit sour sometimes... but do you know why that is? He's a TEENAGE BOY, not only that, but his parents are divorced, his dad is very neglectful and puts him down, he looks down on his passion for dance and honesty just gives: "I am a toxic straight dad and when I see the slightest bit of creativity, it means pansy and you will be punished"; he's also said that he feels left out and lonely due to his little brothers being twins and being best friends. He's just a kid, a kid who likes to dance, leave him alone. In my head, in a world were Tina and Zeke end up together, Jimmy Jr would still be there, as the bff. The three of them can't be separated, are you kidding me????

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8 years ago

I Was Tagged:

Normally, I would hate doing these but considering this is from a site I’m not too popular on, it’s nice to be included at all.

I was tagged by @alex8andre

 Coke or Pepsi: Neither, I choose Dr. Pepper because I like the soda and it’s company also makes yoo-hoo (chocolate drinks ftw)

Disney or DreamWorks: Yes

Coffee or tea: I hate tea and I don’t drink coffee. I had some for a bit just to try it but it doesn’t do much for me. I choose hot chocolate.

Books or movies: Movies, I’m shamefully not much of a reader.

Windows or Mac: Windows

DC or Marvel: Archie! For Sonic the hedgehog. To give you a real answer I’d choose Marvel.

Xbox or Playstation: Playstation

Dragon age or Mass effect: I don’t play M-rated games.

Night owl or early riser: Definitely Night owl. I need to start getting better at that though.

Cards or chess: Cards because I love war.

Chocolate or vanilla: Chocolate

Vans or converse: I don’t really have a preference when it comes to vehicles. I just want it to be safe.

Lavellan, Trevelyan, Cadash or Adaar: Yeah, I have no idea what that even means.

Fluff or angst: Fluff

Beach or forest: Neither, I’m a homebody. I can just look at picture of them online and I’ll be fine.

Dogs or cats: Cats

Clear skies or rain: Clear skies, but I prefer skies when they have some clouds the most. Rain just messes up my internet which I do not appreciate. 

Cooking or eating out: If I could afford the calories and money I’d eat out everyday.

Spicy food or mild food: I like spicy food to an extent because my taste buds require a lot of exciting flavor to be satisfied. I appreciate mild food as well though.

Halloween/Samhaim/Solstice/ yule/ Christmas: I’d be remiss if I didn’t choose Christmas as a Christian. 

Would you rather forever be a little too cold or a little too hot (and no the winter coats and AC are not an option): Considering I have the AC on now because it’s a little cold I choose a little hot.

If you could have a super power, what would it be: Shapeshifting.

Animation or live action: Animation all the way!

Paragon or renegade: Sorry, I don’t understand this?

Baths or showers: Showers

Team Cap or Team Ironman: I haven’t seen the movie, but I choose Captain America.

Fantasy or sci fi: Fantasy I also like sci-fi a bit too.

Do you have three or four favorite quotes, if so what are they? If not do you think you will in the future?: 

Sorry, I can’t think of any at the moment except maybe some KFP quotes.

YouTube or Netflix: Well since Youtube is free and it’s been so long since I actually had Netflix I choose the former.

Classic Disney, Disney Renaissance or Modern Disney?: Disney Renaissance but I also like Modern Disney. I just really miss Disney’s 2D animated movies.

What would you tell your younger self: Stop daydreaming and actually do something with your creative, cartoon-loving, mind.

If you could change one thing about the world around you, what would it be?: I want people to stop using profanity as a way to hide they have nothing intelligent to say. I hate it when I see a person who may actually make a good point but completely ruins by spewing out needless profanity making me not want to like it because I want my page to be appropriate for at least some ages instead of just over 18.

Make music or listen to music: Listen to music. I don’t know my “scales and arpeggios” (reference to the adorable Aristocats movie)

Shakespeare’s comedies or tragedies: I don’t read much Shakespeare but I assume I would prefer comedy over tragedy.

What song do you have stuck in your head right now?: Probably a song from some musical.

Going to a concert or a huge party: They both sound horrible to me! I prefer not to be surrounded by many screaming/drunk people, thank you. Although, if it was a Christian concert I might consider even then I still wouldn’t like being around loud music with a bunch of crowded people.

Favorite animal: I’m not sure I like a lot of animals when they are in pictures. I’m not much of an animal lover when I have to live with them. I do like cats and fluffy rodents like bunnies and alike.

Favorite TV show: I watched a lot of tv when I was younger so I can’t say. At the moment I am waiting to see the next of Steven Universe and I plan to see the new episode of SVTFOE. I’m also eagerly waiting for the next of MLP:FIM.

Favorite Disney movie: I like a lot of them I can’t really say. I can probably list some but my opinion may change in the future. It’s also in no specific order.

Mulan, Hercules, the Lion King series, the Hunchback of Notre Dame, Beauty and the Beast, and Aladdin.

Favorite Movie you watched in 2016? Doesn’t have to had come out in 2016, just something new you watched: Between KFP3, Zootopia, and Moana.

Dearest childhood memory: I guess mostly playing video games without the worrying about the future.

Favorite food: I love food so I really can’t decide. I mostly love food containing some form of wheat/grain/corn product in it. I either go for Italian food or Mexican food. I’m currently craving Taco Bell bean burritos at the moment. I love Olive Garden. I used to love the super nachos at Hardees until they started downgrading it.

What’s Your MBTI TYPE?:  INFP

 I tag nobody because I’m not that kind of person. Plus I don’t follow a lot of people that would pay attention to this anyway .


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2 years ago

So precious! Tina looks so comfy in that outfit! Love the soft, colored outlines too. I look forward to the context of this scene, whatever it is.

Commission I Did For @jimmyjrsmusoems That Miiiiight Have Something To Do With Her Upcoming Fic 👀👀👀

Commission I did for @jimmyjrsmusoems that miiiiight have something to do with her upcoming fic 👀👀👀 Better get your popcorns prepared guys it's gonna be super 💫❤

Now everyone shush up and look at these bloody idiot kids


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2 years ago

I think the biggest evidence for Tina and Zeke eventually getting together is the fact Zeke's name starts with Z. Zeke Zombie They both start with Z! Wake up sheeple, the facts are staring right at us in our faces!/j XD LOL


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2 years ago

@tacosandtouchtanks Okay, I just wanted to update you that I made a decision a day or two ago but haven't said anything till now. Here's the thing, I decided for my touch tank idea I would do the creatures that could actually appear in a touch tank. This is the best option so Tina can project onto the touch tank creatures in her moment of crisis. So sadly, shrimp is not an option anymore for the touch tank idea. In better news, I now have my cast. Zeke: Sea cucumber (obviously that's not going to change) Tina: Sea urchin (kina specifically) Jimmy Jr.: Starfish (Not required to read this part, I'm just explaining the reasons for my choice through the power of synopsis XD)

While perhaps when Tina was 13 she probably dreamt of herself as a starfish. As she gets older though her anxiety gets to her and now through her narrow perspective, she sees herself as a sea urchin. So say after her break up with Jimmy Jr. She leaves her childhood home to find herself. Along the way, she has given up on finding her soulmate and only goes on casual dates. There's still that idealism inside her but she keeps it hidden through her spines of denial and suppression of her feelings. So while she's not expecting to find her soul mate on the first date, she would still hope to at least find a guy that's worth more than 1 date. She goes to the touch tank to try to relax and reflect on all that led up to now. She starts to hate her own reflection because she hates how she fears intimacy now when that's all she ever wanted. She believes that all her attempts at relationships just ended up hurting someone one way or another. She believes all she ever does is make things worse and that even though she wants intimacy, she'll never be able to truly be accepted by someone. Even now, as she's back in her childhood home, Zeke has been determined to try to start a relationship with her. While she feels an emotional connection with him after years of friendship, even then she keeps him at a distance because she's comfortable with the relationship they have already. Deep down, she also doesn't want to admit the superficial reason why she hasn't given Zeke a chance. She simply wasn't attracted to him physically. She doesn't want what happened with Henry Haber and her to happen to him, Zeke doesn't deserve that. She's scared that emotional connection won't be strong enough to overcome her stupid type preference. After all, her own mother left her fiance for her dad simply because he had a sexy mustache. Who's to say that she wouldn't do the same to Zeke? Just the thought of that kills her. So to her, it's better for her to keep it as just friendship with Zeke even if maybe she might even want to give him a chance. She's just too superficial and it's better if he just realizes she's not worth it and moves to someone who deserves him more than she ever did. She drifts off into an aquatic-themed daydream as she immerses her hands in the water again. As a sea urchin, she tried so many ways to find love in the beautiful starfishes of the world. Unfortunately, even though both creatures have regeneration abilities, none of the starfishes wanted anything to do with her because of how unapproachable she looked and how awkward she acted. In turn, Sea Urchina (I'm just going to use this for sea urchin Tina and do puns for the rest) tries her hardest by consuming as many algae as she can to clean the ocean. Sadly, she would overdo it in the end and the algae she consumed killed a kelp forest. This made her relations with the entire ocean worse when all she wanted to do was help and show she was more than her appearance. So she closes herself off from others, thinking no one would miss her anyway. No one was willing to get close to her because of the spines and how the spines would affect them. She tried so hard to make it work with Starry Jr, but even she eventually grew tired of the two constantly regenerating from each other's attempts at a relationship. She had her sea urchin family to turn to at least. She had adjusted to their spines so she could handle their jabs because she knew it all came from love. Even so, she still longed to be accepted as she was from at least one outside her family. She didn't want to spend the rest of her life thinking all she did was make everything worse for the other fish.

Then along came Zeke U. Cumber. Despite her insecurities telling her, she's better off keeping her distance from other fish so no one gets hurt. Zeke U. Cumber reminds Sea Urchina that while she did destroy the kelp forest, things weren't as bad as they seemed. The aftermath of the kelp forest made it a great space for urchins, sea cucumbers, and even starfish, though none of the starfish will admit it. So even if didn't work out the way Sea Urchina planned, the ocean will still be a better place because she's in it. Sea Urchina will never be able to tell how Zeke U. Cumber is able to make the best out of the worst of situations. He was always making the world a better place, he even let shrimp ride him as well as crabs,  polychaete worms, and pearlfish live in his anus just so they can be safe. Zeke U. Cumber had nothing to gain from being so helpful but he did it anyway, he even helped her see that she's not the bane of the ocean's existence. Originally, she dreamed of being seen as someone as wonderful as a starfish despite being a sea urchin. She thought she could never bring anything other than pain to those she wanted to be close to, so she stopped trying. Then along came an optimistic sea cucumber to show her that she's already wonderful on her own and even if the whole ocean doesn't see it that way, she still did her part in helping and making a difference. Tina comes back from her daydream and realizes how much of a fool she's been. For years Zeke has been supporting all his friends, including her for years with nothing in return. He was always there to support his friends but who was there to support him? Even in her own daydream, she used Zeke as a way to pick herself up but never did it for him. She thinks of Zeke's warm smile, how he always makes the best of a situation even if it's crappy. She thinks of how Zeke at times has the energy of a hyper bulldog and how adorable it can be at times. She always had a thing for accents, it wasn't a foreign one but it was still an accent. She has her suspicions that Zeke has been working on his glutes, so maybe... Wait, holy crap! Was she actually attracted to Zeke? Maybe this could actually work and she was overthinking it? She's not 13 anymore so perhaps she can overcome her type preference and find the unique ways that make Zeke attractive after all. I mean she had an emotional connection with Zeke, something that she didn't have with Henry Haber. So maybe it was because of her emotional attraction to Zeke she was able to overcome what she usually liked in a guy. It was more than that though, she was done being selfish. Zeke has never given up on her even when she gave him every reason to do so. She wants to be the one to give back to him. She wants to support him after years of him supporting everyone. She wants to be there to comfort him when the mask came off and he's vulnerable. Even if the thought of messing things up and hurting him scares her. She believes without a doubt that they can overcome it because Zeke is stubborn as a mule and she's never getting rid of him. She runs back to the restaurant to find Zeke and starts giving back. It wasn't going to be easy for her to overcome her lingering anxiety. She knows in the end it will be worth it once she finally lets go and let Zeke into her inner world. It was time for this sea urchin to stop being spineless.

Zekina Touch Tank Idea I Could Use Help On:

Okay, it's so super clear to me that the sea cucumber is the perfect sea creature to represent Zeke. There's just so much about the sea cucumber that relates to Zeke in hilarious ways. The most important one is that the sea cucumber is that it's a creature that is always helping others but rarely gets anything back. The majority of their relationships are more commensal than symbiotic, they aren't being harmed but they aren't gaining anything either. You can also do the pun Zeke u cumber. It's not the best pun but it's something. XD

My problem is that I don't know which sea creature could represent Tina. I have some candidates but I would really like some input as well because I'm not sure which is the best to choose? Here's the list I have so far. 1. Tuna (for the pun for Tina and an opportunity for Zeke to say "you tuna me on". A redemption for his canned Tina joke and general attitude in "Presto Tina-O" lol) 2. Kina (a New Zealand sea urchin and another Tina pun opportunity and an "I'm kina you" joke ((like I'm keen on you if that wasn't obvious already)), Sea urchins do eat sea cucumbers, but they also are part of the same family as sea cucumbers and starfish so make of that what you will) 3. Hermit Crab (least favorite option. While Saucy the hermit carb is important to Zekina lore, hermit crabs eat sea cucumbers so not a good choice) 4. Shrimp (Nothing pun-worthy, but shrimp does technically have the most symbiotic relationship to sea cucumbers, the shrimp still benefits more though. There's also something poetic you can do with shrimp seeing more colors than other creatures) 5. Sea Cucumber (I mean, I guess Tina probably could see herself as a sea cucumber as well, but this is my second least favorite option because it's boring) So I would appreciate any feedback on which one you like best for Tina. I really want a sea creature that fits Tina for her and Zeke's dynamic. My favorite is between the shrimp and the kina. Let the aquatic themes prevail for these two! XD


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2 years ago

I wanted to update you, thanks to "So You Stink You Can Dance", I now conclude that Zeke became a Wagstaff student in 6th grade over 5th grade. It's thanks to Leslie getting his spirit crushed by Spencer that I was able to figure it out. Given Leslie can drive, is not much taller than Jimmy Jr., and I assume around the same height as Logan, the youngest he can be is 16. He also could probably be 17 or 18 but I'm going with 16 for now. I believe he would be much taller if he was in his 20s. Leslie used to love dancing and Zeke has a video of him on his phone his cousin dancing at the age of 13. We find out that Leslie tried to take his dancing to the next level "a few years ago" so it is at least more than 2. Since this is the first time Jimmy Jr. is hearing about Leslie getting crushed by the same man that he is going to get criticism from, Leslie had to have been rejected before Zeke went to Wagstaff. If he was rejected when Zeke and Jimmy Jr were already friends, you know Zeke would have been talking about it with JJ for comfort so it wouldn't make sense for JJ not to already know the story before the episode.

So my timeline is Leslie got the brutal criticism at 13 (to be fair, he could have been older when he tried out, but I think the intention of the episode was to show he tried out at the same age JJ and the rest to parallel his situation) while Zeke was 10. Zeke's family moves again when Zeke turns 11 and the scar of Leslie getting his dancing spirit crushed has faded after a year. He goes to Wagstaff in the 6th grade and meets a new friend with a passion for dancing that reminds him of the passion his cousin used to have and they immediately click, much to Tina's dismay.

I prefer 6th grade to 5th grade for Zeke anyway because it shows Tina's original disdain for Zeke in his fist appearance was fresh but not too fresh when it comes to him taking JJ's attention from her.

I have been rewatching some Bob's Burgers episodes and now I am going to show my headcanon of when Zeke first came to Wagstaff. TLDR version, I think Zeke became a student at Wagstaff between 4th and 7th grade. I think my safe bet is either 5th or 6th grade unless I find more evidence. Here's the evidence of how I came to the conclusion. So we know that Zeke wasn't there when Tina, Jocelyn, and Jimmy Jr. were in third grade because in the episode, "Can't Buy Me Math" Jocelyn immediately reveals that she remembers "the pee thing" while neither Zeke nor Tammy comment on it (Also wanted to bring up I know Darryl said 2nd grade but keep in mind he's a grade lower than Tina and the rest). Tammy doesn't because she wasn't there when it happened because she became a Wagstaff student in 8th grade. Jimmy Jr. left before we could ever find out if he remembered. Tammy and Zeke would have definitely commented on remembering it if they knew about it, one being more malicious about it than the other mind you.

So to me, I think it's safe to say that Zeke wasn't with them during third grade. I don't think Zeke was in Wagstaff in 4th grade either because in the episode, "A Fish Called Tina" We get a flashback of 9-year-old Tina with other students. Jimmy Jr. and Jocelyn are in the flashback, but not Zeke. Lastly, in the episode, "A Few Gurt Men" it is revealed by Mr. Branca that someone tried to flush down three spoons last year, which Zeke apologized for. So it's safe to say Zeke was with them during 7th grade and didn't just recently transfer to Wagstaff in the 8th grade like Tammy. So because of the evidence I gathered so far, I think between 4th and 7th grade is when Zeke moved and became a student at Wagstaff.

My guess is 5th or 6th grade until I see something that contradicts it.


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4 years ago
Recently, I Wanted To Use My Fan Character's Hair's Specific Complementary Color For A Palette. So I

Recently, I wanted to use my fan character's hair's specific complementary color for a palette. So I put her in another, new dress. I decided to make it proposal themed because I just love making cute things. So yeah, just another dress to add to Deb's alternate clothes pile. XD


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2 years ago

I Decided to Analyze the Kisses From "UFO No You Didn’t" Just Because:

At first, I just wanted to see the time duration between the kisses Tina did with Jimmy Jr. and Zeke to see how long she did for both of them. I figured I might as well go further and analyze what was going on during the kisses. Since Tina kissed Jimmy Jr. first I'll start with him.

I Decided To Analyze The Kisses From "UFO No You Didn’t" Just Because:

Okay, to start off the kiss overall lasts around 4 seconds which fun fact, the average time duration of a kiss nowadays is 12 seconds according to my brief research on Google. In the 1980s the time duration was 5.5 seconds which Tina was closer to. Though nobody well-adjusted wants to see 13-year-olds kissing for 12 seconds, so glad Tina didn't go fully for either average for what she thought would be her last kiss with JJu. Anyway, as the kiss goes on JJu is basically in shell shock for the duration of the kiss. Not much eye movement to try to process what is happening. Though it's clear that JJu is so shocked that his arms go limp and he loses his backpack in the process. Tina kisses JJu with so much force that they still move slightly as Tina turns her head to make sure her kiss gets every part of his mouth. When Tina first turns her head I notice that JJu's eyebrow does lift up, assumingly because he didn't expect her to deepen the kiss on top of not being expected to be kissed in the first place. His raised eyebrow only lasts for a bit though and it goes back to the normal shell-shocked position when Tina turns her head again. Lastly, and the most interesting part of the kiss in my opinion is the last turn of the head Tina does. Once she turns her head to the last side of JJu's face, he lifts his arm up. Even in his shell-shock state, he still instinctively lifts his arm up. Though, we'll never know if it's because he wanted to push her off or if he wanted to embrace her. Tina ended it before he could do anything with his arms. Though given his reaction of "Whoa" as Tina ran away, it's more likely the latter was the case.

Though even if the kiss did last longer, knowing JJu he most likely would have left his arms like that and have no idea what to do with them because he's a dumb, teenage boy who can't handle that much intimacy.

That's all I can think of to talk about for that kiss. Now onto my favorite one, to no one's surprise.

I Decided To Analyze The Kisses From "UFO No You Didn’t" Just Because:

For Zeke's kiss, it lasts about 2 seconds. That's not surprising seeing as Zeke was never going to get the longer kiss of the two at this point in time. However, what's special about this kiss at the start is that the animators went out of their way to zoom in on Tina kissing Zeke. That's interesting because they didn't put in the effort to turn the medium-long shot into a medium shot for Jimmy Jr. and Tina's kiss. The camera zoom clearly symbolizes the shock Zeke is feeling and emphasizes the shock the audience is supposed to feel at this moment. Though it's also possible they didn't zoom in for JJu because they wanted the audience to notice the arm lift more when it happened.

What's interesting about the start of Tina's kiss to Zeke is that she starts her kiss with her head tilted and then moves it back to it being straight, unlike Jimmy Jr's kiss where she started straight and tilted it both ways as the kiss went on. It's safe to assume it's because she wasn't running towards Zeke for a kiss and was prepared to be more calculated in her kiss. In short, she wasn't going to break her nose for Zeke. Since Zeke only has 2 seconds, he has even less time to react to anything that is happening. He's so shocked that his arms are stiff in place as Tina pulls his backpack straps. Even with his shorter time duration, Zeke's mental reaction time is still faster than JJu's in that his eyebrows raise even higher for a second time (the first was when Tina first pulled on his backpack straps) and his pupils dart up and back in place, not believing what is happening (the pupils darting up and down is my favorite part of this moment X3). After his pupils finish moving, Tina pushes Zeke's backpack straps back with so much force that his arms swing a bit, showing how shocked Zeke was by the whole ordeal. No matter how fast his mental reaction was, it was clearly never going to translate fast enough physically.

After that Tina leaves the poor boy stiff as a board, wondering what the heck just happened.

The episode goes on and even if JJu had the clearly more intimate kiss, he never brings up the kiss even when it's revealed why she did what she did. Meanwhile, despite having the less intimate kiss, Zeke makes it clear that he's open to another kiss in the next apocalypse. Then he immediately drops the playful teasing once Jimmy Jr. gets suspicious of Zeke's wording. Knowing how jealous JJu can get and not wanting to hurt him, Zeke distracts him with wrestling.

I think that's about all I can add to this analysis of the two kisses. Hope you enjoyed reading it. I'll end this by saying, Jimmy Jr. may have got the longer kiss, but Zeke would always have Tina's last kiss that episode and that's more important in my book. XD Also here are some funny screenshots of Zeke's smile turning into a frown once he realizes he screwed up. XD

I Decided To Analyze The Kisses From "UFO No You Didn’t" Just Because:
I Decided To Analyze The Kisses From "UFO No You Didn’t" Just Because:

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2 years ago
Here's That Part Two I Mentioned In My Last Post! Edmund And Debora Probably Have More They Move Around
Here's That Part Two I Mentioned In My Last Post! Edmund And Debora Probably Have More They Move Around
Here's That Part Two I Mentioned In My Last Post! Edmund And Debora Probably Have More They Move Around
Here's That Part Two I Mentioned In My Last Post! Edmund And Debora Probably Have More They Move Around
Here's That Part Two I Mentioned In My Last Post! Edmund And Debora Probably Have More They Move Around
Here's That Part Two I Mentioned In My Last Post! Edmund And Debora Probably Have More They Move Around
Here's That Part Two I Mentioned In My Last Post! Edmund And Debora Probably Have More They Move Around
Here's That Part Two I Mentioned In My Last Post! Edmund And Debora Probably Have More They Move Around
Here's That Part Two I Mentioned In My Last Post! Edmund And Debora Probably Have More They Move Around
Here's That Part Two I Mentioned In My Last Post! Edmund And Debora Probably Have More They Move Around
Here's That Part Two I Mentioned In My Last Post! Edmund And Debora Probably Have More They Move Around

Here's that part two I mentioned in my last post! Edmund and Debora probably have more they move around between the seasons, but for now, I just wanted to do the ones that mattered. I tried to pinpoint the chapters for the outfits I could.

I couldn't do all because some probably won't ever appear in Nettie's story and will have to wait for the adult attire to appear in my spin-off.

Debora wears the purple blouse when she meets the others at the bar-b-que in CallMeNettie's story, "As Time Goes By" for sure. https://archiveofourown.org/works/20655731/chapters/49052477 Debora and Edmund's nightwear are both a reference to a Hey Arnold comic strip that had Harold claiming to read a Manly Man comic when in reality he was reading a Funny Bunny comic. Edmund owns a comic book store in Nettie's story so it's only fitting they would both wear something comic-themed (it's also hilarious to see Edmund wear dorky, superhero undies XD). https://heyarnold.fandom.com/wiki/Comics/Collection_Confusion

I think out of all of the attire, I think I'm most proud of the last two dresses. Debora looks so pretty in both of them. I really wanted to update Debora's dress for Nettie's series because the one I had for her would have had complications. Edmund looks great as a Viking groom too. He's kind of basic with the sweater vest get up but it works in story because Debora loves guys in sweater vests.

I made these rings a while ago, but I didn't have an excuse to post them here until now. I figured it would have been lame to post something with just rings rolled out like a banner so now it fits neatly with the "As Time Goes By" and "The Legend of Punch Girl" Debbie and Eddie attire list.

Thank you for reading this far and here's hoping that I'll actually get to work on my story now. lol P.S. I say bonus for the lingerie Debora because I only wanted to post it on here because I didn't feel comfortable posting it anywhere else. I mean, it's doll anatomy, but still.


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2 years ago

Lol! So funny! Thank you for this cute and amusing gift! I was happy to help and I'm glad you enjoyed the gif so much. The art was definitely worth the wait. Those two silly teenagers! XD

The owl in Zeke's mind is hilarious! XD

A Lil Experimental Piece For @dreamboundedstar As A Thank You For Making Me The Most Perfect Gif 🙏I

A lil experimental piece for @dreamboundedstar as a thank you for making me the most perfect gif 🙏I hope you like it!


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