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2 years ago

Could you do an analysis on what Hanako’s life was like when he was human? And his relationship with the “fake” Tsukasa

As in the time gap between Tsukasa jumping in the hole and until he killed Tsukasa because in the 4pm book stacks, when spider face was cleaning up his wounds I see handprints on his wrists which kind of imply Tsukasa (or someone else) did…things

Also do you feel that the manga implies that sort of thing between Amane and Tsukasa too?

I am not very interested in Hanako’s relationship with Tsukasa, so I can't do a 'proper' analysis. But I’ll share some thoughts.

I personally don’t believe there is a ‘fake’ Tsukasa, he has always been weird, he never told anyone that the ‘god’ under the house copied his speech or seem to care much about it, and he didn't show any hint of hesitation or remorse about sacrificing animals to get his wishes, even cats and snakes.

Could You Do An Analysis On What Hanako’s Life Was Like When He Was Human? And His Relationship With
Could You Do An Analysis On What Hanako’s Life Was Like When He Was Human? And His Relationship With

Which was all to grant Amane's wishes, a brother he decided he would die for since four. He has been obsessed with Amane far before learning Amane would eventually kill him.

The only thing the “God” inside Tsukasa seems to have truly done is stunt his growth (he still acts like a child) and give him knowledge a normal human shouldn’t know.

Could You Do An Analysis On What Hanako’s Life Was Like When He Was Human? And His Relationship With

Still, the horror child like framing of this change is the mom's point of view: Amane seems happy.

Could You Do An Analysis On What Hanako’s Life Was Like When He Was Human? And His Relationship With

And Amane’s joy remains for years.

When Nene travels to the past and meets Amane, who appears to be at the very least eight years old, it is heavily implied he didn’t come with his parents, just Tsukasa.

Could You Do An Analysis On What Hanako’s Life Was Like When He Was Human? And His Relationship With

At this point in the story, I don’t think he was being abused, physically or emotionally: He is eager to trust and help Nene, who is a stranger, and he displays a lot of confidence, honesty, and joy. Not being scared even when Nene try to steal his wishing paper.

Could You Do An Analysis On What Hanako’s Life Was Like When He Was Human? And His Relationship With

He doesn’t seem particularly troubled with his family either. He ever implies a member of his family is crazy, or shows intentions of wanting to use his slip to ‘heal’ them, as a kid as sweet as him would likely be inclined to do. He seems a bit lonely cause his bro was focusing on something else that he can't interrupt instead of keeping him company, but that's about it.

And in Shijima's world they are buddies, which would be... weird... if Tsukasa eventually started to hurt him.

Could You Do An Analysis On What Hanako’s Life Was Like When He Was Human? And His Relationship With

But I’ll be honest, considering how old this plot point is, Amane’s injuries are extremely vague. It could be anyone.

Could You Do An Analysis On What Hanako’s Life Was Like When He Was Human? And His Relationship With

Maybe something happened, and Tsukasa got violent, and clingy to the point of being hurtful, maybe his parents snapped and Amane couldn't blame family, maybe is a third party, maybe is a curse, I don’t know, I don't plan to re-read the entire manga to get a better feel on it, but since you asked for my opinion, I personally think this turn for the worst in his life is partially the red house fault, and partially Amane’s own actions.

Let’s rewind a bit.

Tsuchigamori, or spider face, said the only person to alter their own fate was Amane. Not Tsukasa, who was influenced by future Kou, or Nene, who is always seeing the past: Just Amane.

Changing the future is such a big deal it became Tsuchi’s yorishiro, the spider can’t get over it. So I would say it is important to consider this is his ‘normal’ future.

Could You Do An Analysis On What Hanako’s Life Was Like When He Was Human? And His Relationship With

So what changed Amane’s wish? What made him give up?

It wasn’t Tsukasa’s disappearance or reappearance. It was his meeting with Nene.

Could You Do An Analysis On What Hanako’s Life Was Like When He Was Human? And His Relationship With

These slips are a big deal.

Could You Do An Analysis On What Hanako’s Life Was Like When He Was Human? And His Relationship With

We are told they are rumored to make your wish come true in a land of supernaturals where every rumor so far was true. And that it is so hard to get all the five colors, that Yako was never able to, and she is an old spirit.

And the wording Amane used is... Concerning.

Could You Do An Analysis On What Hanako’s Life Was Like When He Was Human? And His Relationship With

As the astronomy teacher was fated to be, Amane would have never met Nene again, and even in the case he was still teaching at by the time she was a student, she would not be an ‘onee-san’ anymore: He have to die before 14 for her to stay an onee-san when they met again more than sixty years later.

I do think the red house and Tsukasa and so on plays a big part in Amane’s fucked up life, but it is strange he only got injured and “gave up going anywhere” after meeting Nene and putting his wish on the Tanabata tree.

We have no info on this part of his life though so it’s anyone’s guess.


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2 years ago

Ooooo I did not know that thank you for telling me such fascinating info 😍

Signs that shows Hanako Being Related To His

Chinese zodiac sign

I posted that hanako/Amane yugi zodiac in China was a Wood Goat and today I put in analysis on it

Keep in mind I’m doing this for fun and just happen to peak my interest, I’m not really good in explanation so the images will do most of the talking. This is part 1 by the way

Signs That Shows Hanako Being Related To His
Signs That Shows Hanako Being Related To His
Signs That Shows Hanako Being Related To His
Signs That Shows Hanako Being Related To His
Signs That Shows Hanako Being Related To His
Signs That Shows Hanako Being Related To His
Signs That Shows Hanako Being Related To His
Signs That Shows Hanako Being Related To His
Signs That Shows Hanako Being Related To His

I mean that kinda true I guess

See you soon in part 2


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2 years ago

Signs That Shows Hanako Is Related To His Chinese Zodiac

This is a the last part

Thank for making it this far

Signs That Shows Hanako Is Related To His Chinese Zodiac
Signs That Shows Hanako Is Related To His Chinese Zodiac
Signs That Shows Hanako Is Related To His Chinese Zodiac
Signs That Shows Hanako Is Related To His Chinese Zodiac
Signs That Shows Hanako Is Related To His Chinese Zodiac

Unless in this cover these are carnations

Signs That Shows Hanako Is Related To His Chinese Zodiac
Signs That Shows Hanako Is Related To His Chinese Zodiac

In fact carnations also happen to symbolize in love as well

Same also goes to primroses

Signs That Shows Hanako Is Related To His Chinese Zodiac

And there you have it, things that shows hanako is related to his Chinese zodiac The Wood Goat

Like I said I did this for fun but, I love to hear your thoughts and opinions on it since this is my first own TBHK post

Pls go through part 1 and part 2 if you haven’t

And thank you for reading this 😊


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2 years ago

Signs That Shows Hanako Being Related To His Chinese Zodiac

The wood goat

Ok here is part 2

Signs That Shows Hanako Being Related To His Chinese Zodiac
Signs That Shows Hanako Being Related To His Chinese Zodiac
Signs That Shows Hanako Being Related To His Chinese Zodiac
Signs That Shows Hanako Being Related To His Chinese Zodiac
Signs That Shows Hanako Being Related To His Chinese Zodiac
Signs That Shows Hanako Being Related To His Chinese Zodiac

Although we don’t know Hanako personal relationship with shijima mei of the art room,well other than wanting her to finish the painting.

He does hate the power of No.4 and her perfect world itself

Signs That Shows Hanako Being Related To His Chinese Zodiac

so happens that the first boundary they went is no.2

Signs That Shows Hanako Being Related To His Chinese Zodiac

And as we all know he is the 7th mystery

Signs That Shows Hanako Being Related To His Chinese Zodiac

In his design in his color scheme he wore a black school uniform and has a redish line at the bottom of the uniform as well on his hat and seal, along with his tsueshiro both being white,one that also red while the other is blue.

Signs That Shows Hanako Being Related To His Chinese Zodiac

See you soon in the last part

Pls see part 1 if you haven’t


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1 week ago

okay so I wanted to update this bc I had another idea (thanks to @/sakuraswifee's theory!!!! you can read it first to understand this better) that train to the far shore mention really got me TRIPPIN. it is so good.

anyways, so long story short, yk one of the reasons kou wants to be an exorcist is to help nene with her lifespan, and also for hanako and his brother BUT he doesn't even mention mitsuba, anything about him to his brother which is sorta telling especially since hes trying really hard to figure out how to help him become human.

Okay So I Wanted To Update This Bc I Had Another Idea (thanks To @/sakuraswifee's Theory!!!! You Can
Okay So I Wanted To Update This Bc I Had Another Idea (thanks To @/sakuraswifee's Theory!!!! You Can

and yk what's MORE telling? he ignores his brother's worried texts in favor of being with mitsuba. HHHHHHHUUUUUMMMM

Okay So I Wanted To Update This Bc I Had Another Idea (thanks To @/sakuraswifee's Theory!!!! You Can

but if we look here at the clock keepers arc, kou aged, which is a total contradiction for the mtsk dying together yk

Okay So I Wanted To Update This Bc I Had Another Idea (thanks To @/sakuraswifee's Theory!!!! You Can

ANOTHER BUT. tsuchigomori said that there was one kid who changed his future (amane/hanako) and it's not revealed how, and depending on what it entails, it could give this theory credibility or crash it down

Okay So I Wanted To Update This Bc I Had Another Idea (thanks To @/sakuraswifee's Theory!!!! You Can

and we have no backstory on why yashiro manages to be able to break yorishiros other than bc she's a kannagi (like is her family ancestry's kannagi too?) but it's the reason aoi and her managed to switch lifespans because aoi's a kannagi too, and..... the minamoto clan... aren't kannagis...but they still concern supernatural stuff.

Okay So I Wanted To Update This Bc I Had Another Idea (thanks To @/sakuraswifee's Theory!!!! You Can

so are you picking up what im putting down rn? yep thats right!!!! it's a hard decision for kou to make but he did say he'll always be on nene's side :') and he even defied his own brother for it...he's so sweet ..

Okay So I Wanted To Update This Bc I Had Another Idea (thanks To @/sakuraswifee's Theory!!!! You Can

yashiro wouldnt want kou to sacrifice himself but then again it's his choice to literally agree to run away with mitsuba and basically just died with him

Okay So I Wanted To Update This Bc I Had Another Idea (thanks To @/sakuraswifee's Theory!!!! You Can
Okay So I Wanted To Update This Bc I Had Another Idea (thanks To @/sakuraswifee's Theory!!!! You Can

NENE AND KOU MAAAAY EXCHANGE LIFESPANS!!! so if not yorishiro HE WILL DIE WITH HIM

that's it for my yap session remember this is just me being delusional RAAAAAAHHH THIS IS REAL THIS IS REAL IN MY HEARTT

mitsukou has been lowkey eating my brain (once again) and this will probably sound stupid blabbering but im gonna try to make myself sound convincing. and in my defense this was just a random thought that popped up on my mind.

what if the thing about natsuhiko saying the way for a human to become a supernatural is to become a yorishiro? I mean think about it, what else is sumire other than a supernatural? If she just died normally instead of becoming a yorishiro she would've ended up disappearing along with other girls under the red house.

at first, I thought natsuhiko planned on saying it to kou so it could trigger something but he looks surprised here so I doubt it now but there's still a possibility

i think his face reads as "ooooh an unexpected reaction but I'll take it"

Mitsukou Has Been Lowkey Eating My Brain (once Again) And This Will Probably Sound Stupid Blabbering

even if he was really mean that time he probably really did care about mitsuba someway and was hoping for him to make kou his yorishiro

Mitsukou Has Been Lowkey Eating My Brain (once Again) And This Will Probably Sound Stupid Blabbering

AAAND another reach maybe that's why kou asked him out on a date (other than just wanting to hang out with him, ofc) like so he could maybe get more important to mitsuba and make him his yorishiro!

and get this, if he becomes mitsuba's yorishiro, nene LITERALLY wouldn't be able to destroy him at all, thus allowing her to live!!!! two birds with one stone, if you will

(but you could say then 'wouldn't the broadcasting trio not like that?' which is true but they did they'll do ANYTHING to make yashiro destroy every yorishiro, possibly by threatening her and especially looking at the sumire incident she wouldn't want that to happen again AND THE LOWKEY PARALLELS OF WHAT HAPPENED WITH SUMIRE AND HAKUBO WITH THE MITSUKOU CHAPTER. (with the cannibalism and all))

and it could be another reason why kou was so shocked at him when he asked to be exorcised (cough instead of making him his yorishiro cough)

Mitsukou Has Been Lowkey Eating My Brain (once Again) And This Will Probably Sound Stupid Blabbering

BUUUUUT that is just inherent yapping so that's that. just wanted to get my silly ramblings out there pls dont take it too seriously thank u.


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1 month ago

mitsukou has been lowkey eating my brain (once again) and this will probably sound stupid blabbering but im gonna try to make myself sound convincing. and in my defense this was just a random thought that popped up on my mind.

what if the thing about natsuhiko saying the way for a human to become a supernatural is to become a yorishiro? I mean think about it, what else is sumire other than a supernatural? If she just died normally instead of becoming a yorishiro she would've ended up disappearing along with other girls under the red house.

at first, I thought natsuhiko planned on saying it to kou so it could trigger something but he looks surprised here so I doubt it now but there's still a possibility

i think his face reads as "ooooh an unexpected reaction but I'll take it"

Mitsukou Has Been Lowkey Eating My Brain (once Again) And This Will Probably Sound Stupid Blabbering

even if he was really mean that time he probably really did care about mitsuba someway and was hoping for him to make kou his yorishiro

Mitsukou Has Been Lowkey Eating My Brain (once Again) And This Will Probably Sound Stupid Blabbering

AAAND another reach maybe that's why kou asked him out on a date (other than just wanting to hang out with him, ofc) like so he could maybe get more important to mitsuba and make him his yorishiro!

and get this, if he becomes mitsuba's yorishiro, nene LITERALLY wouldn't be able to destroy him at all, thus allowing her to live!!!! two birds with one stone, if you will

(but you could say then 'wouldn't the broadcasting trio not like that?' which is true but they did they'll do ANYTHING to make yashiro destroy every yorishiro, possibly by threatening her and especially looking at the sumire incident she wouldn't want that to happen again AND THE LOWKEY PARALLELS OF WHAT HAPPENED WITH SUMIRE AND HAKUBO WITH THE MITSUKOU CHAPTER. (with the cannibalism and all))

and it could be another reason why kou was so shocked at him when he asked to be exorcised (cough instead of making him his yorishiro cough)

Mitsukou Has Been Lowkey Eating My Brain (once Again) And This Will Probably Sound Stupid Blabbering

BUUUUUT that is just inherent yapping so that's that. just wanted to get my silly ramblings out there pls dont take it too seriously thank u.


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1 month ago

OHHH MY GOD I LOVE YOUR ANALYSIS!!! your predictions are sooo good!!!!!!!

also, idek much about germany culture AT ALL but when people were like "let's theorize where they're from" I was like "isn't it germany" like???? thank u for reaffirming my guess because honestly it was just something out of my ass like its vibes were giving germany idk🔥🔥🔥

Let's talk about the clock keepers boundary!

(warning: spoilers until chapter 124!!)

I've had some guess on where they could be from so let's look at what we have in the manga for now. I will keep things on surface level for the most part but it's just some things I noticed!

The first mention of the town is in chapter 111, where we finally have a view on their boundary.

Let's Talk About The Clock Keepers Boundary!

A lot of fans already guessed from their clothes that they were not from Japan, this panel definitely confirms it and even points more precizely to a European country, mostly Western Europe. And also a country where Winter with snow exist.

Let's Talk About The Clock Keepers Boundary!

It's also not an English speaking country, since Akane cannot understand the language and we know he has english classes at school.

Now there are several things we can look at to have more clues!

First, the architecture.

Let's Talk About The Clock Keepers Boundary!

This type of house is called Timbered framed houses. It’s important to note that the roofs on those houses are really really sharp here. Which means theywere built for snow, so it can slide off the roofs more easily. The trees are also pines, something that can be found in a lot of Europe. (wood was needed to be able to create houses made of wood/with visible Framework( Little note: I know Italy was a guess for a lot of person because of the link to Pinocchio, but Italy main material for houses is stone not wood. And it is also not known for its winter.)

Here we can also see bricks which is something more associated to countries like Germany, Belgium or the Nertherlands, we don't have the colors so we can't guess from which minerals it was made for now.

But we have even more informations when we look at chapter 124!

Let's Talk About The Clock Keepers Boundary!

The bridge and tower may be inspired by a fortified city, something that you could find A LOT in Western Europe during the middle age, not a lot of cities still have their entire walls but you can still see it if you go into old medieval towns. We can also see something that looks like a Belfry on several panels. Towers used mostly to indicate each passing hour of the day (may be a campanile or a bell tower (the difference is wether it's linked to religion or not basically)

Let's Talk About The Clock Keepers Boundary!

Second! Let's do a little bit of clock making history!

I won't go into details, but there are some countries to point for this. England, The Netherlands and Germany. We already took out England before and we can easily erase Nertherlands from the list with the next step (my favorite one).

The food! I already had my suspicions confirmed with this bonus art from volume 22.

Let's Talk About The Clock Keepers Boundary!

First of all, they have tea which is not something that was in Europe before the XVII century. But let's look at the sweets they have here.

Let's Talk About The Clock Keepers Boundary!

Chocolates which look close to Belgian chocolate ( I say Belgian but other countries' chocolate is pretty close to it) , Christstollen Cake, and Spiztbuden.

Let's Talk About The Clock Keepers Boundary!
Let's Talk About The Clock Keepers Boundary!

We have even more to look at with the new chapter! And they confirm that it's indeed a stollen cake.

Let's Talk About The Clock Keepers Boundary!

With all these foods it's now pretty obvious which area the clock keepers are inspired from.

Stollen cakes are German cakes, ginger cookies are from Germany too. I will also add that there is a chance the crescent moon cookies are VanilleKipferl. We have another panel showing Sausages and bread. Only the Almond is something not typical from Germany but which clearly was all over Western Europe with trades.

Let's Talk About The Clock Keepers Boundary!

Their city already looked like the 'perfect christmas city' you can see in movies, inspired by German culture. And they also mention Mulled Wine which is THE beverage to take in any chritmas market in Europe.

Let's Talk About The Clock Keepers Boundary!
Let's Talk About The Clock Keepers Boundary!

Chritmas markets are inspired and coming from Germany first, but I wanna point something more.

My main guess was, Nuremberg, the city where the ancestor of the pocket watch was created, the Nuremberg Egg. It's also a Fortified city and it has forests around it. It's also known for its Ginger cookies!

Let's Talk About The Clock Keepers Boundary!
Let's Talk About The Clock Keepers Boundary!

So Germany would be a great pic, but the more I think about it the more I can also see the link to another region: Alsace.

Alsace is a region from France right now BUT it's a mixt of german and french culture (I will not make a history lesson but it is a place that always switched between France and Germany basically, now it's French).

All the food mentionned before are also made in the Alsace region!

It's situated in the Vosges, a chain of mountains known to have a lot of forets of pines and which is known to have villages like this:

Let's Talk About The Clock Keepers Boundary!
Let's Talk About The Clock Keepers Boundary!

Which were also the main inspirations for movies like Howl's moving castle for example. You can see the similarities between the artchitectures

Let's Talk About The Clock Keepers Boundary!

The first ever Chritmas Market was in Strasbourg, the capital of Alsace, when it was German and it spread accross Europe after.

I will now look at something I usually don't do because I exclude Aus from canon but it's just a funny thing to point out.

Let's Talk About The Clock Keepers Boundary!

This au shows a snow town inspired by ginger bread houses. I just find it funny because Aoi is shown as a baker, with bread (which are not baguette I think, it's way larger here) but with some croissant on her table (disclaimer: Croissant are not french at first, this form here is, but it's from Austria otherwise) And Kako clearly has something similar to a Wine bottle in his hands. This au is the only one featuring them, was given with their volumes and the vibes are really similar to their boundary.

Let's Talk About The Clock Keepers Boundary!

I would say no matter what it's definitely closer to German culture but I wanted to point out this region which is known for it's Christmas season and its typical houses.

I will mostly say that it's an inspiration from this region of Europe, I don't know if a real country is the reference for it since we don't even know where tbhk takes place, but it's always funny to look at those things :DD

Little bonus:

In a more messy note, the clothes. I put them at the end because besides their hats, I had no idea how to describe it, since it seems pretty typical of what people could wear in winter.

Let's Talk About The Clock Keepers Boundary!

I did the research in the other way, to look for German and Alsacian clothing to see if it match and it kinda does but I don't think it's speficific to this region. The girls wear classic white Charlotte and big clothes with layers for Winter.

The clock keepers clothes are different, it looks like a mixt of Japanese and western European clothing (especially from england).

Let's Talk About The Clock Keepers Boundary!
Let's Talk About The Clock Keepers Boundary!

Their main outfits for Akane and Kako really just look like a typical waistcoast/costume you can find in the XIXth century in Europe and Mirai's seems more inspired by a mixt of a Kimono with several layers(she also has sandals and frills) and a coat? The little knots Kako and Akane have on their coats look like something inspired from Mizuhiki knots too (I actually saw a costume with those exact same knots in a museum but I didn't take a picture rip)

Let's Talk About The Clock Keepers Boundary!
Let's Talk About The Clock Keepers Boundary!

So I would say they probably changed slowly their attire when they arrived in Japan, we don't know since how many times they are here, but we know that what is happening in the deeper place of the boundary is linked to memories previous to their arrival. According to their origin I think we can say that it's pretty sure they arrived after the Meiji/during the Meiji Era in Japan (1868/1912), since it's a this time Japan mostly imported Western culture (for clothing here, the first contact was before this. And note: it was mostly rich people who dressed like this). And If we look at some others dates like the things they are eating, used to have or even their clothes, I would say it's more probably the Meiji Era and not in the XVs.

Another note is that their clocks have the numbers written in japanese on it (in the og version but it maye just be so it's readable for the japanese readers? idk if it's a choice or not).

I haven't searched much on their clothes but it was still something I wanted to note here ^^


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8 months ago

TBHK spoilers; don't read unless you're caught up with the manga.

Why have, at least from I've seen, most people in the fandom forgotten about Kou's desire/contemplation on becoming a supernatural?

In the far shore arc, after the Severance, it's is shown that Kou had a conversation with Natsuhiko regarding this topic, though we don't actually see the conversation. He's asked Teru what he thinks of Kou himself becoming a supernatural. He also seems to pick up on the information that eating a supernatural makes you become one.

I know this arc was around a year ago but I feel like it was either

An unessassary plot point that was scrapped OR

foreshadowing

I feel like, once we get back to the main timeline, that will probably be Kou's main conflict (after everything with Mitsuba dying AGAIN is resolved. Though, we don't know if he's actually dead or just in pieces like at the aquarium.)

I really hope this plot point gets brought up again because if not I'll feel like an idiot :3


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